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		<title>By: Almostgotit.com &#124; Sarah Palin&#8217;s email and a couple of goats</title>
		<link>http://www.almostgotit.com/2008/09/09/palin-v-obama-which-one-makes-me-evil-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>Almostgotit.com &#124; Sarah Palin&#8217;s email and a couple of goats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s looking more and more like the job was done by the son of one of our own rare but &#8220;Vile Democrats,&#8221;  too.  Those [...]</description>
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		<title>By: almostgotit</title>
		<link>http://www.almostgotit.com/2008/09/09/palin-v-obama-which-one-makes-me-evil-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>almostgotit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And what an interesting comment *you* contribute to the mix, MB!  thanks as always for coming by and sharing.   (I gather you *didn&#039;t* enjoy the mouth-frothing?  :)   )&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And what an interesting comment *you* contribute to the mix, MB!  thanks as always for coming by and sharing.   (I gather you *didn&#8217;t* enjoy the mouth-frothing?  <img src='http://www.almostgotit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    )</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mini Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mini Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting query. Perhaps we as Americans are so much more open about political intolerance than religious intolerance because to be religiously intolerant is to be blacklisted as narrow-minded, unfairly biased, or just plain racist. However, political intolerance is in vogue. Exhibit A: Today I watched clips from the O&#039;Reilly Factor and Jon Stewart&#039;s Daily Show. These guys are being paid to froth at the mouth at each other, and we&#039;re supposed to enjoy it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting query. Perhaps we as Americans are so much more open about political intolerance than religious intolerance because to be religiously intolerant is to be blacklisted as narrow-minded, unfairly biased, or just plain racist. However, political intolerance is in vogue. Exhibit A: Today I watched clips from the O&#8217;Reilly Factor and Jon Stewart&#8217;s Daily Show. These guys are being paid to froth at the mouth at each other, and we&#8217;re supposed to enjoy it?</p>
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		<title>By: almostgotit</title>
		<link>http://www.almostgotit.com/2008/09/09/palin-v-obama-which-one-makes-me-evil-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>almostgotit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Thank you for your very thoughtful comment, Quin!  Guess I&#039;m just late to the game as always...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Thank you for your very thoughtful comment, Quin!  Guess I&#8217;m just late to the game as always&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Quin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That question at the end is a great one.  I&#039;d hazard that the U.S. is more, maybe much more relgiously tolerant than it is politically tolerant.  I&#039;m not sure this is the best indication, but I&#039;ll go public with my religious views long before I let my political views become obvious.  And the latter is often very difficult to do at all.

In fact, when I try to voice my political views, I often find that I&#039;ve dissembled, and sometimes for entirely different, even opposite reasons on different occasions.  I&#039;ll exaggerate my conservatism for liberals.  I&#039;ll exaggerate my liberalism for conservatives.  Or versa-vice for each.  I&#039;ll nod in approval for things I later realize I disagree with completely.  My political inclinations are, in fact, more fluid than my religious inclinations, which I like to think is a good thing.

In light of this discussion, it&#039;s interesting that one of the more prominent political pundits (Rameesh Ponnuru of Time and NR), a Catholic conservative, wrote a book called &quot;The Party of Death&quot;, although he has stated many times that it wasn&#039;t directed at Democrats so much as the political aspect of the Culture of Death.

I&#039;ve often toyed with the idea that politics has become a religion in this country.  Etymologically speaking, &quot;religion&quot; means &quot;binding back&quot;, or perhaps binding together, and I think this refers to political questions now even more than &quot;religious&quot; ones (which as David B. notes, are considered of a more private nature).  The 50/50 R/D split seems to have morphed into a modern version of Manichean dualism, but even worse in that its priests and practitioners aren&#039;t committed so much to the dualism itself (read: political process) as to one half of the divide.

But perhaps the founders intended it this way.  They often found themselves faced with choices between binary opposites, with no refuge to be found in an excluded middle.  Maybe this is instructive, even constructive, in that it forces decisions to be made, and encourages responsibility and accountability for those decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That question at the end is a great one.  I&#8217;d hazard that the U.S. is more, maybe much more relgiously tolerant than it is politically tolerant.  I&#8217;m not sure this is the best indication, but I&#8217;ll go public with my religious views long before I let my political views become obvious.  And the latter is often very difficult to do at all.</p>
<p>In fact, when I try to voice my political views, I often find that I&#8217;ve dissembled, and sometimes for entirely different, even opposite reasons on different occasions.  I&#8217;ll exaggerate my conservatism for liberals.  I&#8217;ll exaggerate my liberalism for conservatives.  Or versa-vice for each.  I&#8217;ll nod in approval for things I later realize I disagree with completely.  My political inclinations are, in fact, more fluid than my religious inclinations, which I like to think is a good thing.</p>
<p>In light of this discussion, it&#8217;s interesting that one of the more prominent political pundits (Rameesh Ponnuru of Time and NR), a Catholic conservative, wrote a book called &#8220;The Party of Death&#8221;, although he has stated many times that it wasn&#8217;t directed at Democrats so much as the political aspect of the Culture of Death.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often toyed with the idea that politics has become a religion in this country.  Etymologically speaking, &#8220;religion&#8221; means &#8220;binding back&#8221;, or perhaps binding together, and I think this refers to political questions now even more than &#8220;religious&#8221; ones (which as David B. notes, are considered of a more private nature).  The 50/50 R/D split seems to have morphed into a modern version of Manichean dualism, but even worse in that its priests and practitioners aren&#8217;t committed so much to the dualism itself (read: political process) as to one half of the divide.</p>
<p>But perhaps the founders intended it this way.  They often found themselves faced with choices between binary opposites, with no refuge to be found in an excluded middle.  Maybe this is instructive, even constructive, in that it forces decisions to be made, and encourages responsibility and accountability for those decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: almostgotit</title>
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		<dc:creator>almostgotit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What a delightful comment, Marcie, and a very interesting point of view.  

I think it is very possible that 

(a) Most Americans don&#039;t know how to talk passionately about politics without also being nasty  

-- and/or -- 

(b) When Americans hear politics discussed with passion, we tend to interpret the passion itself as nastiness, because we are uncomfortable with passion.

You can come back and leave comments here ANY TIME, Marcie!  Thanks again!  &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What a delightful comment, Marcie, and a very interesting point of view.  </p>
<p>I think it is very possible that </p>
<p>(a) Most Americans don&#8217;t know how to talk passionately about politics without also being nasty  </p>
<p>&#8211; and/or &#8212; </p>
<p>(b) When Americans hear politics discussed with passion, we tend to interpret the passion itself as nastiness, because we are uncomfortable with passion.</p>
<p>You can come back and leave comments here ANY TIME, Marcie!  Thanks again!  </em></p>
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		<title>By: Marcia @ BullsEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcia @ BullsEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually surprised when I moved to the US over twenty years ago, how less than passionate people were to discuss either religion or politics.  Having grown up in a culture where we debated openly, feverishly about both - come to think of it, we discussed everything that way - it was surprising to me. 

I am glad to see that has changed a bit, but fear the &quot;vile&quot; word could be used to describe both R&#039;s and D&#039;s on some days.  Those of us who passionately pursue the balance of center are having a hard time of it, when we see benefits to both.

Maybe we are thinking that we are less politically tolerant because we are talking about it more?  Imagine if we had religeous groups &quot;running&quot; and we would have to pick one and be stuck with the &quot;winner&quot;.  Then we would see how far people were to go to win that battle.  

The passion is admirable on both sides, but I worry about whether we will still love each other in the morning after all the nasty words.  Will the hurt be too deep after we have spent so long hating on each other?     

Will there be make up (you know what) after this is all over? 
Marcie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually surprised when I moved to the US over twenty years ago, how less than passionate people were to discuss either religion or politics.  Having grown up in a culture where we debated openly, feverishly about both &#8211; come to think of it, we discussed everything that way &#8211; it was surprising to me. </p>
<p>I am glad to see that has changed a bit, but fear the &#8220;vile&#8221; word could be used to describe both R&#8217;s and D&#8217;s on some days.  Those of us who passionately pursue the balance of center are having a hard time of it, when we see benefits to both.</p>
<p>Maybe we are thinking that we are less politically tolerant because we are talking about it more?  Imagine if we had religeous groups &#8220;running&#8221; and we would have to pick one and be stuck with the &#8220;winner&#8221;.  Then we would see how far people were to go to win that battle.  </p>
<p>The passion is admirable on both sides, but I worry about whether we will still love each other in the morning after all the nasty words.  Will the hurt be too deep after we have spent so long hating on each other?     </p>
<p>Will there be make up (you know what) after this is all over?<br />
Marcie</p>
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		<title>By: almostgotit</title>
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		<dc:creator>almostgotit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@WG: sounds exciting :)  (the sleeping with part, not the bummed out part.)

@ Mr. Budd:  comic strip: Pogo?

@ Yep:  This is the blog that does no evil.  And now I expect it to become very, very famous.

@ David: I do think it&#039;s a wee bit more useful to ask questions like yours, e.g., &quot;How much experience and ability does this person have?&quot; than &quot;Are we quite happy about that hair style?&quot; or &quot;Did we like that little Norsky accent/ AME preacher style that  she/he gets into when speaking?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>@WG: sounds exciting <img src='http://www.almostgotit.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   (the sleeping with part, not the bummed out part.)</p>
<p>@ Mr. Budd:  comic strip: Pogo?</p>
<p>@ Yep:  This is the blog that does no evil.  And now I expect it to become very, very famous.</p>
<p>@ David: I do think it&#8217;s a wee bit more useful to ask questions like yours, e.g., &#8220;How much experience and ability does this person have?&#8221; than &#8220;Are we quite happy about that hair style?&#8221; or &#8220;Did we like that little Norsky accent/ AME preacher style that  she/he gets into when speaking?&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the question you pose at the end about religious intolerance vs. political intolerance. I think that to the extent religious beliefs lead to &quot;political behavior&quot; (e.g., stands on abortion, gay rights, etc.), then the two types of intolerance merge somewhat. Otherwise, religious beliefs and actions are pretty private affairs generally done in the company of the like-minded and therefore don&#039;t play out where anyone will react intolerantly. Political beliefs, on the other hand, tend to lead to actions generally done in the public square (e.g., voting) and therefore open us up to lots more cans of pandora wax, or however that saying goes. So, in conclusion, in terms of what HAPPENS, as opposed to potential, I do think we see a lot more political intolerance than religious intolerance in this country. Speaking of which, why would people vote for a ticket in which one member -- the one who is a 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency (can&#039;t mention names here) would have to say that pretty much everything she learned about national and international affairs she learned AFTER she was nominated and in the TWO MONTHS prior to the election (which I think is a fair characterization considering the fact that the handlers haven&#039;t let her speak with the press yet)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the question you pose at the end about religious intolerance vs. political intolerance. I think that to the extent religious beliefs lead to &#8220;political behavior&#8221; (e.g., stands on abortion, gay rights, etc.), then the two types of intolerance merge somewhat. Otherwise, religious beliefs and actions are pretty private affairs generally done in the company of the like-minded and therefore don&#8217;t play out where anyone will react intolerantly. Political beliefs, on the other hand, tend to lead to actions generally done in the public square (e.g., voting) and therefore open us up to lots more cans of pandora wax, or however that saying goes. So, in conclusion, in terms of what HAPPENS, as opposed to potential, I do think we see a lot more political intolerance than religious intolerance in this country. Speaking of which, why would people vote for a ticket in which one member &#8212; the one who is a 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency (can&#8217;t mention names here) would have to say that pretty much everything she learned about national and international affairs she learned AFTER she was nominated and in the TWO MONTHS prior to the election (which I think is a fair characterization considering the fact that the handlers haven&#8217;t let her speak with the press yet)?</p>
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		<title>By: Yep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my own experience, Democrats see the current administration as genuinely &quot;evil.&quot;  If I just mention &quot;Dick Cheney&quot; as a description of the person, I am routinely &quot;corrected&quot; with some well known derogatory term for the person.  And, it can come from someone I don&#039;t even know.  

And, the revulsion continues.  Some of the members of the band &quot;Heart&quot; were suing the Republican Party because Palin used the &quot;Barracuda&quot; song as she was introduced.  The Republican Party claims to have gained and paid for proper permission, but that is not relevant here.  By *not* suing, these members associate themselves tacitly with &quot;evil.&quot;  That makes sense, right?

The Republicans should campaign on a slogan of &quot;we are not evil&quot; and see what happens.  It worked for Google.  They claim to &quot;do no evil&quot; as part of their mission statement.  As proof, I was speaking with a well educated professional this past weekend who actually said to me that because Google claims to do no evil, they could be trusted.  Wow.  I think it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my own experience, Democrats see the current administration as genuinely &#8220;evil.&#8221;  If I just mention &#8220;Dick Cheney&#8221; as a description of the person, I am routinely &#8220;corrected&#8221; with some well known derogatory term for the person.  And, it can come from someone I don&#8217;t even know.  </p>
<p>And, the revulsion continues.  Some of the members of the band &#8220;Heart&#8221; were suing the Republican Party because Palin used the &#8220;Barracuda&#8221; song as she was introduced.  The Republican Party claims to have gained and paid for proper permission, but that is not relevant here.  By *not* suing, these members associate themselves tacitly with &#8220;evil.&#8221;  That makes sense, right?</p>
<p>The Republicans should campaign on a slogan of &#8220;we are not evil&#8221; and see what happens.  It worked for Google.  They claim to &#8220;do no evil&#8221; as part of their mission statement.  As proof, I was speaking with a well educated professional this past weekend who actually said to me that because Google claims to do no evil, they could be trusted.  Wow.  I think it works.</p>
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